Featuring ALEX + ZACK and MICHAEL + ROBIN
“It’s about the next step, it’s about creating that progression within our relationship. “How do we interact when we are in a routine trying to live our lives in parallel?” It’s a little scary. I don’t know. It’s been so nice up into this point. That might ruin some stuff, but I think it’s an important step.” –Zack
“It’s kept us on a honeymoon phase for two years which is great. Maybe part of me worries that it’ll end. I know it will end someday, maybe not.” –Alex
“People have often asked me about saving marriages and my response is always… that’s never been a business that I thought I was in. We don’t have it that couple staying together is the end point, like the objective in every case. For us, it’s about people getting off the fence, getting real about their relationship. So either you’re in or you’re out and choose, but don’t spend 20 years ambivalent about your relationship. To me, that’s the tragedy.” –Michael
Our conversations today span the arc of relationship–from moving in together for the first time, to reconnecting and finding love again after decades. Alex and Zack discuss their decision to live together after two years of long-distance relating.
Michael and Robin from episode 8, come back to share their marriage counseling philosophy. They talk about gratitude, relationship performance art, and getting couples off the fence of ambivalence.
Music by Andrew Plus John, and Sasha Merkulov
ALEX + ZACK:
MICHAEL + ROBIN